Jayden Klinac: A new model to make the existing one obsolete

This week, the TTI Interview Series covers our member, Jayden Klinac. Jayden has spent the past 8 years founding 6 businesses - exploring new ways of operating, including new materials that are made from renewable resources and can return to the earth at the end of their natural life. Realising this alone is not going to save us, his goal is not only to replace Oil Based Plastics and end our reliance on fossil fuels, but to create products, systems and business models that go beyond sustainability and into regeneration. Through working with, and learning from nature, Jayden is developing models where waste is designed out of the system, and used as a resource that can heal our earth and feed our people.

In this interview, Jayden talks about natural plastic replacements and a regenerative system, creating local and organic food systems, the challenges of changing current systems and how waste can be designed to be valuable

Tackling plastic waste while regenerating our soil

Jayden, how does your work intersect with the impact space?

9 years ago I set out to re-design plastic. To take all of the negatives, and redesign them into positives. This led to developing better materials, made from renewable resources, and now waste, instead of oil. 

After a couple of years on this journey, I realised a better material alone would not save us, and developed a regenerative system for these natural plastic replacements to live in. Instead of plastic waste, we now grow organic food after composting the products we have replaced, such as water bottles.

I have developed a vertical supply chain from raw materials through to our certified organic composting and urban farm sites where we process our own products, that are collected through our own collection network. This tackles plastic and organic waste while regenerating our soil and creating local, organic food systems. 

We are now building a facility in New Zealand that converts organic waste (food, forestry, dairy) into natural plastic replacements that are home compostable and ocean degradable.

Operating in harmony with nature

How would you define impact?

Proving that business can operate in harmony with nature.

The opportunity to create virtuous cycles

What are the most important problems we need to address in the next 10 years?

Our food systems, including regenerating our soil.

We currently operate in a manner that creates vicious cycles. We use synthetic fertilisers which kill biodiversity, emit carbon, contribute to the mass amounts of soil we lose every year, are harmful to our health and inhibit the soil's ability to store water and produce nutrient dense food. We then ship this around in fossil fuelled vehicles. All of this emitting C02 and creating a spiral of negative impacts

If we were to start farming locally and regeneratively, using compost for example. We have the opportunity to create virtuous cycles. The way we grow food would build biodiversity, build soil and help it heal, sequester carbon, and increase the soil's water holding capacity by up to 1000%, mitigating droughts, run off and the chance of wildfires. Not to mention producing more nutrient dense food and less need for transport and packaging.

An experiment done by Berkeley university found that when they spread a half-inch layer of compost on rangeland and found that it boosted the soil  carbon sequestration capacity from one-half ton to three tons of carbon per hectare per year for each of the eight  years they had been testing. If this onetime thin application of compost were applied to a quarter of  California’s rangeland, the soil would absorb three-quarters of California’s greenhouse gas emissions.

This is a simple yet powerful solution we have to climate change that we can take action right now, at home. Creating virtuous cycles and unforeseen positive impacts for people and the planet.

Plastic is also a huge one for me and I feel grateful to have found a way to integrate the two through realising how interconnected everything is.

Fighting the existing reality

Can tell us about the challenge in the impact space, standing in Jayden’s way of providing solutions faster?

Waste is valuable when we design it that way

What is your vision of your work in the long-term and how do you measure & quantify your impact?

To design waste out of the system. Waste will always be created, it's inevitable, however it does not need to exist if we design from end to end, within systems that are in harmony with nature and how nature deals with its waste (think a leaf at the end of Autumn). Waste is a valuable resource when we design in this way. I measure through how much traditional plastic we replace, how much 'waste' we divert from landfill and help it to re-enter the cycle.

The best of our ability

What is the misconception you have noticed regarding what “impact” is all about?

Trying to make your company look good on the outside, without carrying the culture and way of life through everything you do, to the best of your ability.

Existing Industry. Plastic is made from oil, and it's been around for a long time now. Expensive infrastructure (recycling) has been built in an attempt to justify the continuity of using it. 

To get this system to change isn't easy when so much money has been invested in the wrong direction. The other players in the market are large and do not welcome change as much as they could.

I can not put this better than Buckminster Fuller "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete"

Plastics and food are well established industries with a lot of say at high levels in our society.

We come across day to day resistance and are working out how we can better work with industry in order to provide larger impacts.